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VIDEO: Interview with serial killer Charles Manson's former prison counselor

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VACAVILLE (KRON) -- Infamous murderer and cult leader Charles Manson died in prison last week after spending 46 years behind bars.

On Tuesday night, KRON4 sat down with Manson's former prison counselor.

"He had the power to scare the hell outta ya," former Prison Administrator Edward George said.

George got to know Manson on a personal level during his years at San Quentin.

"He liked the reputation of being the most evil guy in the world, the most dangerous," George said.

George took the time to get to know the man behind the evil.

"We kinda created a bond where I kept trying to figure out why he did what he did," George said.

He says even while in prison, Manson was manipulative.

"Things that were borderline to approve, I'd say let him have it, so he could tell me more about the family and people that were in the family," George said.

In 1971, Manson was convicted of nine murders and sentenced to death along with four of his followers, which was downgraded to life when California banned the death penalty. While getting to know Manson, the former counselor says he spoke to at least five psychiatrists that told him Manson was by no means crazy.

"He's just an evil guy. A sociopath. That was the diagnosis," George said.

The killer threatened to butcher George a number of times, saying he had family on the outside that would carry out the deed.

The former counselor says he blatantly ignored the threats.

But not all the officers in the prison unit did.

"They didn't want to stay in the unit," George said. "He threatened them and said he had people out there that would kill them and their families, and they transferred."

Over the years, Manson wrote Edwards hundreds of letters to stay in touch. The two men had a bond, where they even took photos together.

Edwards wrote a book on Manson after retiring.

"I could never fathom how he could do that, except he had that charisma," George said.

George stopped taking Manson's calls about three years ago, saying with multiple calls per day from the convicted killer, it was starting to get extremely expensive.

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